Ok, I can get sort of disagreeing the wildfires are from climate change - that’s a couple of logical steps you have to make. But “It’s not causing anyone to cough” is plainly ludicrous. It was making me cough when I went outside.

“It doesn’t smell bad”? Maybe they have COVID and lost their sense of smell altogether? It certainly smelled bad to me. And if you thought it smelled great - wow. I just don’t ever want to be around you if you like those sorts of smells. I can’t see it actually working with anyone who’s ever been in wildfire smoke before - like you don’t need science or education or anything to notice if it makes you cough, or tell something doesn’t smell great.

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    You don’t need a high level of education to know you shouldn’t inject bleach into your system to kill COVID-19, and yet people died listening to Trump’s suggestion.

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    Let’s be real. A lot of these people don’t actually believe anything that comes out of their mouth, but if they think it’ll trigger a liberal they’re down with it.

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      I especially don’t get this “dying to trigger the libs”. Interesting tactic I have to say. I am not compelled to try and trigger anyone - are they all trolls now or something? I have more interesting things to do than to cut off my nose to piss someone else off.

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        I think there is a lot of pride to be conservative coming into play here. Hard to explain, but I sometimes see this in my family. They proudly present their ignorance to show off their conservativism, hold it in front of them like a banner. When I inquire a bit deeper their views are often a bit more reasonable, it just feels like average boomers wanting to be cool by flaunting their ignorance, as weird as this sounds.

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          Yeah it feels like most right wing people are more progressive than they think.

          I’m not from the U.S. but everytime I talk with a conservative we agree on a lot of things once they stop talking with slogans

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            That’s my experience too. Often when I talk to people they have pretty moderate or left-leaning views that would fit well in any of our more left-leaning parties. However the majority of them still votes for our biggest conservative party, which openly promises and does the opposite of what they claim they would want in a conversation. Frustrating.

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      The documentary Behind the Curve explores this idea a bit. It follows die hard flat earthers around their daily lives to get to know them a bit more.

      There’s a running theme throughout the movie that these people weren’t very happy with their lives prior to becoming flat earthers. Joining the “movement” gave them instant friends and a sense of direction. There’s subtle hints now and again that most don’t actually believe the Earth is flat, but they feel like “coming out” would ruin their reputation with their new community.

      I get the sense that a lot of right wingers feel the same.

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        and the reason we don’t hear much about flat earth any more is because most of them moved on… to QAnon.

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    I’ve been coughing a lot, while working outside the last few days. I’m in Ohio, and it doesn’t look particularly dusty or smoky, but my lungs can sure feel it.

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      I live in Michigan but I work as a contractor and a lot of my work brings me to NW Ohio. Just last week it was hazy enough to barely see any of the wind turbines off of 30. Of course it wasn’t nearly as bad as what New York had/has. But yeah, that was a rough day for the lungs.

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    I can get sort of disagreeing the wildfires are from climate change

    Eh, no. Wild fires would also occur without climate change, but anybody denying that climate change isn’t making wild fires (and a hundred other things) worse is not making a “couple of logical steps”, they’re denying science.

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    People I work with are infinitely suspicious of the wildfires. They say shit like, “Hmm, isn’t it odd they all started around the same time?”

    Yes, Jeffrey, that’s how wildfires work. Entire biomes burn to the ground if the conditions are hot and dry for long enough.

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    I mean, to me (in the DC area, so not nearly as bad as it was further north) it just smelled like a campfire outside to me. It wasn’t a particularly offensive smell.

    But I could FEEL that the air quality was bad every time I took a breath, and I don’t have any kinds of respiratory issues.

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      Ok, if you were further away it could have smelled different. Up here in NY it smelled like burning trash and plastic and chemicals. It was horrible. I was referring to people who live in the same small town as I do, so they had to smell the same thing.

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        To be clear I’m not downplaying how terrible it must have smelled in more heavily effected areas; I didn’t mean to come across as doing so.

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    “This doesn’t kill anybody, it doesn’t make anybody cough, this is not a health event,” he added, contradicting public health experts and basic common sense. “This has got nothing to do with climate. This is wildfire smoke. This is natural. This is not because of climate change. This is not because of fossil fuels.”

    Seriously, we should start making laws that put rich powerful assholes in jail when they start spouting obvious lies that make the world a worse place.

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    You just buy a big slab of meat, put it on a coat hanger on the patio, free smoked meat!

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    Why not tell them that KCN is actually an extremely healthy mineral and get rid of this Problem once for all!..

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    It’s been fun watching the Facists tear themselves apart after their coup failed. I hope we have many more Pride Month presents!