Amendments to the PayPal Privacy Statement Effective November 27, 2024:
We are updating our Privacy Statement to explain how, starting early Summer 2025, we will share information to help improve your shopping experience and make it more personalized for you. The key update to the Privacy Statement explains how we will share information with merchants to personalize your shopping experience and recommend our services to you. Personal information we disclose includes, for example, products, preferences, sizes, and styles we think you’ll like. Information gathered about you after the effective date of our updated Privacy Statement, November 27, 2024, will be shared with participating stores where you shop, unless you live in California, North Dakota, or Vermont. For PayPal customers in California, North Dakota, or Vermont, we’ll only share your information with those merchants if you tell us to do so. No matter where you live, you’ll always be able to exercise your right to opt out of this data sharing by updating your preference settings in your account under “Data and Privacy.”
edit: update title to reflect this is for PayPal USA users
Imagine if you lived in a country with a banking system so modern, that nobody needed Paypal or Venmo.
Oh, like the free bank transfers we’ve had in the UK since… 1997…?
Yes. What a lot of Americans don’t realise is that in other countries, bank account numbers are standardised to include pre-defined bank and branch information. In a sense, account number includes what americans think of as routing number.
People trade bank account numbers like business cards. Businesses post their account numbers for payment. Even a flyer for a local school fundraiser will have an account number listed on it. If you buy something from someone, the seller tells you his account number. You log into your bank and transfer the funds instantly, whether it’s $10 or $10000. You don’t need to know anything except the recipient’s account number.
It’s free. It’s painless. It’s interconnected. It’s bank agnostic. The movement of small monies between individuals should not be commoditised.
You need to know the name of the owner of the account. At least in my experience, if you put a wrong owner number the money transfer will be rejected.
Nope, you just need the IBAN, you can put any name you want, for your own reference
I even get a warning on my banking app saying to triple-check the IBAN because that’s the only thing the transfer is based on
Perhaps in your country. Not in mine. Number only no names.
No you don’t. The name field is optional. If your bank requires you to fill something in, their app/system hasn’t been updated to comply with EU banking regulations. I’d simply write Not Applicable from now on. Or Mickey Mouse.
I was doing electronic transfers with my bank, over dialup, in 97.
US has been playing catch up for decades. FedNow was implemented in 2023 to allow instant P2P payments between banks thereby eliminating the need for PayPal, Cash App, Venmo, et al.
It will take some time before we see banks make this fully available to everyone and subsequently merchants using it.
Fednow for instant teansfers is based off PayPal tech.
Still need PayPal for some transactions that require a credit card. In the Netherlands, credit cards aren’t as commonplace as in the USA since we only pay with money we actually have.
I’m not saying I discredit your argument, I’m just angry at companies requiring either a credit card or PayPal (or even worse, those buy now pay later deals).
Same in Germany, so I just got a free credit card from Advanzia Bank in Luxembourg. As long as you pay the bill on the due date (via bank transfer, which is free in the EU), there are no fees and charges whatsoever.
I have a credit card with ING for international payments. You can just get one if you want one, as long as you have a moderate income and no a history of unpaid debt.
Paypal is easier and possibly cheaper, but it’s also a scummier bank (American scummy bank rather than European scummy bank). That said, PayPal Europe and PayPal US are two very different companies that share the same name and logo, with very different capabilities and terms of service.
My wife has an ING credit card pretty much because you need one if you wanna rent a car abroad
I do imagine :(
Look up Pix in Brazil.
Uh, isn’t that normal? People use PayPal because of the easy of use resulting from its inherently low security that is still far better than CC, not because there aren’t sensible alternatives.
The sensible alternative is when banks allow instant free transfer of funds from your account to any other account regardless of which bank or recipient.
TIL that’s an 🇪🇺 thing that we already have that. 😅