• boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net
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    6 months ago

    Agree on the looks. Even though GNOME is literally a “no blur” macOS clone, which I also dont find really inspired

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      6 months ago

      My father uses a mac and it is plenty different. Maybe the design philosophy of MacOS and GNOME are similar but the implementation is very different.

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        6 months ago

        What is different? I think GNOME diverged a bit more, by removing window buttons, desktop icons, the dock etc. And they dont use blur and transparency at all.

        But with dash to dock, blur my shell and some decoration manipulation changer it is very similar.

        Not that I dont think this makes sense (I dont, as having a dock but also a top panel wastes space) but it is not really a unique workflow

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          6 months ago

          Well the way the workspaces and the overview work is completely different which means that workflow is night and day different. Not to mention how the differences in how floating windows work, what role the top panel plays and things like that.

          They might look similar just like how KDE ‘looks’ similar to windows but that is only true at the surface level. The way the desktops behave and hence the workflow is very different in each case

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          6 months ago

          Removing window buttons ? the trio of buttons for controlling window size ? or is this something else

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            6 months ago

            Yep. And removing the maximize button doesnt even make sense, apart from “looking better”. Not everyone can easily double click I guess

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                  6 months ago

                  But there’s 3 actions right ? is there a way to minimize and close too ? triple click ? that sounds so counter functional on paper. I guess I’d have to try it

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                    6 months ago

                    There is a close button, thats it.

                    You wont believe me but minimize is not a thing as there is no panel or dock. You open stuff, move it somewhere else and you will never use a dock as a container, just as a quicklauncher.

                    I think that is fair, but it for sure forces many people to adapt their workflows.

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      6 months ago

      I never understand the “Gnome is a MacOS clone” thing.

      Other than a black bar at the top which has the time and a few system icons, what to they really have in common?

      The workflow is entirely different, the dock is almost always hidden in Gnome, MacOS has no activities view, Gnome doesn’t even use the icon in the top left as a start-menu.

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        6 months ago

        Yes it is MacOS with the dock hidden. And without window buttons. And they are not on the left and not damn colorblind unfriendly.

        I mean the top bar is the exact same, the app drawer, the workspaces. The quicksettings. They just removed even more stuff.

        Edit: there are many things about them that are different, but the overall design seems similar to me. I think GNOME is way more usable and makes more sense. But still, having a top bar already is kinda odd and I think using that already makes you “macOS like”.

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          6 months ago

          No it isn’t.

          The top bar isn’t the exact same, it’s extremely different. Gnome doesn’t use a global menu, doesn’t have a start menu, doesn’t have the clock on the right. The only similarity is the bar being at the top and containing stuff like WiFi and battery icons.

          The window decorations are different. The UI looks different. Gnome doesn’t have a permanent dock, doesn’t have stuff on the desktop. Window management works in a very different way, MacOS doesn’t have the activities view, etc.

          They are not alike.