Thunderbird for Android 8.0
When can I get it for android 14? End dad joke.
I get the joke, but also I was shocked to see in the article:
Thunderbird for Android runs on mobile devices running Android 5 and above.
Who out there is still running Lollipop?! That came out over a decade ago. You can’t even get Thunderbird through the Play Store because Google Play Services dropped support for 5.1 back in July. I have so many questions.
I mean Thunderbird on windows always looked like it could work on windows 95 so I’m not surprised
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Been looking forward to this for a long time—K-9 Mail is an excellent mail client, but this is one step closer to Desktop/Mobile sync.
Doesn’t IMAP sync anyway?
Been using Thunderbird and K9 for years. All is the same on both.
After waiting years for this I ended up using FairEmail, which is absolutely amazing. I’d have a hard time switching to something else at this point.
I’ve been fairly happy with K9 but if they are about to Mozillify it, I will check out FairEmail.
I don’t understand the downvotes. Mozilla’s new CEO is questionable at best. He’s been stuffing ad-related nonsense into Firefox since he assumed.
Is Mozilla that involved in Thunderbird? IIRC their revitalization happened more under The Thunderbird Foundation after Mozilla put them out to pasture to die after years of neglect.
Last time I talked about Thunderbird here on Lemmy (and was downvoted because, allegedly, Thunderbird and K-9 are the exact same app, according to android@lemmy.world), I seem to recall it was however mentioned one of the differences between the two is that Thunderbird was going to include setup for Google play subscriptions (whatever that is)…
They mention it in the article, but I think its purely for donations, so you can subscribe to donate on a monthly basis
Only that FairEmail looks like an ancient elephant… I tried to use it, but found it pretty complex.
The devs description states that it’s intentionally minimalistic visually and focuses on advanced features. FairEmail is way overkill for someone with a single gmail account for example. At the time that I found it, FairEmail was the only client that met all of my needs. Like managing multiple accounts, each with multiple folders and none of that unified nonsense. It’s also available on F-Droid and GitHub.
Unfortubately I am locked in to protonmail :/ otherwise I’d love to use it, looks great
There is apparently a way to set up a bridge that will allow you to access it, but that sounds like an awful lot of work. It also requires connecting to a PC running the software, and I would imagine it affects the security of the messaging (which may be the reason to choose proton mail in the first place).
https://proton.me/support/protonmail-bridge-clients-windows-thunderbird
I’m in the same boat - with them for the encrypted email, but it does hold me back from using third party apps on mobile. Hopefully they get an easier way to use third party apps on mobile. Will probably just end up being a mobile bridge app or something
They have an app though, do you not like it?
It’s pretty but feature-deficient and not very pleasant to use compared to third party email apps imo
This remains my #1 complaint every time they send me a “how are we doing” survey
I check, then reply:
Your email app still doesn’t support basic functionality like creating and editing filters, something I had to code for a phone app back in high school
Like, holy shit, the feature exists on desktop why the fuck can’t I have it in the app rreeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Thx! That’s for desktop. The bridge is alright. There’s no major drawback to it afaik. But this is news about android. Thunderbird bought k9mail
The bridge just creates imap/smtp servers, so you should be able to add it to thunderbird on Android.
That’s very good to know, thx! But that means I have to run the bridge on my server, open the ports there etc. , right?
Edit: just tried this and it didn’t work. Proton bridge only listens on 127.0.0.1 and doesn’t accept incoming connections due to security concerns.
If I were in your position, which I am and will probably end up doing this, is vpn into your home network and just connect to the local IP of your bridge server.
WG tunnel on F droid allows for you to auto connect to your wireguard server when you leave your home net, and auto disconnects when you get back on your home net.
Personally, I’m unsure if proton bridge listens for external request or if it only accepts requests from localhost? If that’s the case it may be an issue.
https://github.com/exander77/proton-bridge-android
There is a way to do it locally on an Android device using Termux.
Why locked? Proton mail does’nt have a protocol?
No IMAP/SMTP support with ProtonMail. You have to run their bridge application locally to get that functionality.
IMAP/SMTP does make their encryption at rest impossible, AFAIK similar providers like tuta don’t have those either.
wait a hot second, do protonmail not support IMAP??
Unfortunately???
Yes. Calendar is even worse. There’s no bridge at all. Proton should’ve used a standard protocol and put their encryption on top of it in a separate layer to make it comlatible with other software
Proton should’ve used a standard protocol and put their encryption on top of it in a separate layer to make it comlatible with other software
That’s a hacky approach ngl. Security would’ve left the chat the exact moment they had a thought about doing that in their heads. Proton is a known company. Imo developing their own protocol is a good decision if they can’t make the existing one work properly at all.
Proton sucks.
I had an account, way too many problems. Apps sucked ass.
One important thing K-9 does that this doesn’t: realese on F-Droid.
What is this? At least provide a repository like DivestOS… while you are at it, get the code for the free software off of proprietary Microsoft GitHub.
The post says they’re working on releasing to F-Droid.
How on Earth do you lose this support in the handover shuffle—especially knowing the audience a third-party email client? I would say it shouldn’t be released if F-Droid support isn’t there since it isn’t something you would want to back-burner.
I’m pretty sure it’s an issue on F-Droid’s end, as it’s always a few days behind for all my other apps that get released on the play store as well. IIRC they have a release process that involves them compiling the packages that takes a while to run.
Android 8.0 💀💀💀
Just downloaded the apk. Thanks for the heads-up!
Is this worth it or is it just K9 with a different name? Like does it really add anything
It looks better imo
Also you will have to check whether k9 will still receive updates
From what I’ve seen in the changelog its basically the same, beside the branding and donation links/IAP
As I already said on Mastodon, I’m surprised how good the app looks. Couldn’t expect that from Thunderbird.
It’s actually K9 mail with a new name. They went over to the Mozilla foundation a year or two ago.
Thunderbird 128 ESR has a really nice/modern look. Besides, if you don’t like the default look, you have plenty of themes to use with.
Great news!
Does it support schools microsoft exchange ?
Seems unlikely - I believe Office 365 disables third-party email clients by default these days
Exchange ActiveSync is a licensed protocol. If any FOSS app handles it for free I’d love to know.
Evolution in Linux does.
What’s the use of active sync ?
ActiveSync is to Exchange as IMAP/POP3 is to other email providers.
So if you want your email client to speak with an Exchange server you’re using ActiveSync, not other protocols used by other types of servers.
Anyone know if they plan to add other parts of the desktop version to the Android version? Would be nice to see at least the calendar. The RSS stuff would be cool too.
I think I remember reading some comments in a previous blogpost that it wasn’t really in the near-future roadmap at least. I think there are a couple good android calendar apps without needing Thunderbird to port that. RSS sync would be great though, I’d love that too.
I wonder how much the success of Thunderbird affect Firefox
Note that -
Operated by MZLA Technologies Corporation, a subsidiary of the Mozilla Foundation, Thunderbird is an independent, community-driven project that is managed and overseen by the Thunderbird Council, which is elected by the Thunderbird community.
