davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.mlEnglish · 21 hours agoZelensky admits Ukraine does not have military strength to reclaim lost territories from Russiawww.independent.co.ukexternal-linkmessage-square153fedilinkarrow-up1146arrow-down119
arrow-up1127arrow-down1external-linkZelensky admits Ukraine does not have military strength to reclaim lost territories from Russiawww.independent.co.ukdavel [he/him]@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.mlEnglish · 21 hours agomessage-square153fedilink
minus-squaregeneva_convenience@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up1arrow-down5·18 hours agoIf Russia was ever truly pushed to the brink Russia could always nuke Ukraine. There is no real way to win against nukes besides giving Ukraine their nukes back because America did not hold up their end of the nuclear deal.
minus-square☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up7·15 hours agoIf the west gave nukes to Ukraine, Russia would obviously treat that as a nuclear attack by the west. At that point everybody dies.
minus-squaregeneva_convenience@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up5·14 hours agoPossibly. Which is the point. There is no way for Ukraine to win unless the west wants to risk nuclear war.
minus-square☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up3·14 hours agoExactly, the whole thing was a folly from the start.
minus-squareGrapho@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up8arrow-down7·15 hours agoMaybe don’t give nukes to a fucking nazi government in hopes that’ll bring peace? Why not start with diplomacy and iterate from there?
minus-squareChuymatt@beehaw.orglinkfedilinkarrow-up2arrow-down1·17 hours agoWell, the only party that did was Ukraine, really.
If Russia was ever truly pushed to the brink Russia could always nuke Ukraine. There is no real way to win against nukes besides giving Ukraine their nukes back because America did not hold up their end of the nuclear deal.
If the west gave nukes to Ukraine, Russia would obviously treat that as a nuclear attack by the west. At that point everybody dies.
Possibly. Which is the point. There is no way for Ukraine to win unless the west wants to risk nuclear war.
Exactly, the whole thing was a folly from the start.
Maybe don’t give nukes to a fucking nazi government in hopes that’ll bring peace? Why not start with diplomacy and iterate from there?
Well, the only party that did was Ukraine, really.