Great project, but those version numbers are killing me. Surely there isn’t 16 hotfixes. They do realise they can go 2.100.0?

Maintainer. Was. These are volunteer open source projects.

Former developer. They are no longer involved with the project.

The second part of your first post was answered in my original post. Auto apparently doesn’t work.

Play store apps should still work sandboxed. Email, I’m not sure, but I’d assume so. It works out of the browser fine. I’m not familiar with Niagra launched so couldn’t comment.

Out of curiosity, what do you use auto for?

Who said anything about less important?

We’re all busy, and we use our time how we choose. They choose to use it in this way and I thanked them. Maybe consider how you spend your time. Arguing on the internet gives you very little.

Apologies if I came across as rude, but there has been several posters that are “interested” but couldn’t live without Auto or payment. It’s like of all the millions of features phones have, and the majority of dissenters here need the exact combination that GrapheneOS doesn’t support. I find that really odd. If you are one of the few that needs that, point taken and maybe it isn’t for you, but until today I hadn’t heard of Auto’s and now it’s critical and something that cannot be lived without.

Fair point. Probably quite risky to only bring a phone on holiday though in case it gets stolen. I couldn’t fathom that personally.

I’ve not rented a car abroad personally so don’t know much about what that app provides.

I guess those that consider them deal breakers probably aren’t ready to degoogle. That’s fine, and it’s a very personal choice for individuals. Maybe Android -> ios may work better for them if privacy is something on their appetite.

Yeah, I’d like the project to expand to others, but I think currently it relies on unlocking the bootloader, installing a new OS and relocking the bootloader and not many hardware manufacturers provide that right now.

I think without Pixel, there are a few things like Lineage (and I’m not sure about e/os) if the hardware isn’t something you’re going for. Other mobile linux isn’t quite ready and needs time.

When I got a degoogled phone, I’d already decided I do not trust Google with my data and I want to be far away from them. With that decision came the decision that I don’t consider them an authority I rely on, and don’t want their opinion on what is good and what isn’t. If people aren’t ready to degoogle, that is fine, but to ask google if it’s cool to degoogle is a an area where maybe folk aren’t ready to degoogle.

Ah, maybe Voyager doesn’t yet recognise those links and sees it as external. On Firefox, the link opens in same tab.

Yes, but with payments, it’s high risk and complex. Payment providers want full control of their environment. Google aren’t going to be comfortable rubber stamping degoogled phones. Saying, “hi google, can i get away from your spying, but can i have this spying” makes no sense to me. A bank card is ridiculously small and you can tap without pin or use pin if you prefer. You have a solution to the problem. Wanting it on your phone rather than via bank card isn’t really providing anything extra to the solution. It’s a massive non issue. Many phone cases carry cards. It’s such a meh issue.

Ooof, where are you if you don’t mind me asking? You cannot import or get second hand?

You are such a nerd…

… and so wonderful! Thanks for looking over source code so busy folk like me don’t have to! :)

It’s in the post at the top, there is a link that says cross posted from. That should hopefully work.

Reeeeeee!!!11!!11

The two main features that aren’t biggies and GrapheneOS doesn’t support and they’re the deal breakers? Yeah, right…

Works on hands free for calls but not with Android auto.

I’m using a 6a and it works great. Mileage may vary if you get under contract as these companies sometimes mess around with the boot locking stuff etc.

I got the 6a over half a year ago for £299 brand new. So about $350 dollars, I’m guessing. Best to get the older models when newer ones are out or just about to come out. 6a is really great.

Hi google, can you approve our phone that basically cuts your apps out and offers privacy from your mass spying operation please? Such a weird point.