Yep, that ones definitely profitable and exploitative too

Thats true of, at the very least: industrial agriculture, which has become the source for the overwhelming majority of food as a product of massive corporate consolidation in the meat packing industry. And I’d have to assume dairy and egg industries as well.

I think one could probably debate back and forth on more traditional agricultural methods being wildly profitable and exploitative, with both those seperate points having their own nuances

I don’t know that they’re THE most profitable businesses, but they’re definitely up there on that list. Oil belongs on the list too, that one’s just environmental exploitation rather than human exploitation. (Which is not to say environmental exploitation doesn’t negatively affect humans, it most certainly does)

What a cute video idea. Not an Ubuntu user but seasonal theming sounds like fun

Yeah, direct health impact aside they’re still disposable products that poison our water to manufacture, and poison the people who make them.

Like thats profoundly awful, one really doesn’t need any more reason to avoid them, that’s a very reasonable choice

Thank you for the additional info, I will have to look into that at some point :)

From what I understand the risk associated with Teflon pans is mostly with manufacturing with them, and the chemicals affecting manufacturing workers and getting in waterways, not cooking and eating from them.

The risk from heating them up is generally considered to be minor, and an uncommon accute risk, rather than something that happens regularly and that affects long term health. Adam ragusea did a very well reseached video on the subject where he spoke to experts about where the risks do and don’t lie (actually it looks like he’s done two, this is the more recent one)

https://youtu.be/vZ1KmVmpC8o

But do know that buying them facilitates their manufacture, and the impact on workers and the environment is pretty horrible.

The chemicals involved are often called “forever chemicals” because they basically never break down, meaning they’ll pretty much just accumulate for as long as we manufacture things with them, which includes A LOT of different products. Rain coats are often made with them, and aren’t supposed to shed pfas or pfoas, but evidently do anyway at alarming rates, and our water sources are already fairly contaminated. This video does a really good job of covering that side of the conversation about “forever chemicals”

https://youtu.be/-ht7nOaIkpI

I’m glad you’re here :) I’m trying to get better at noticing opportunities to post and contribute myself

I’m a bit of a FOSS nerd and care about privacy, but I’m much more an art and design person than I am a technical person.

I use Linux, and I can write some very basic code after learning how in Highschool, but mostly I just like making pretty stuff. Especially anything to-do with UI/UX

Like someone else said, I’m a technical person compared to the average population, but not compared to Lemmy, or the FLOSS community. I left reddit when the api changes happened, and have found I really love the Fediverse and very strongly believe in what it represents

We’re happy you’re here! 😊

Presuming the onion

When it is in fact, an orange 😌

Yeah, I agree. I’d just moved over to bitwarden as I switch to open source stuff, I’d really prefer to stick with bitwarden, I’m fairly happy with it

Ah… Yikes 😬

I mean, not even just that; companies don’t move manufacturing overseas to build a better product. There are plenty of product segments and individual products that demonstrate China and Taiwan are more than capable of producing high quality stuff with good QA, but no one moves manufacturing there to make high quality stuff, they do it because moving to a place with poor labor laws, cheap labor, with low expectations of health & saftey in the workplace, and weak environmental regulatory oversight is a unchecked-capitalism wet dream, and allows for more “competitive pricing” (a race to the bottom), and better profit margins.

Companies don’t move or start manufacturing overseas because they wanna build a good product, they do it cause it’s cheap as shit, and that’s reflected in a lot of what we associate with things being made poorly made. The manufacturing groups set up in other contries are perfectly capable of hitting QC goals, but it’s not like the folks doing business with them are generally asking for much with respect to product quality standards.

that’s a big part of how I look at it anyway

It seems disproportionately complicated relative to how basic the task is. I’ve definitely done more complicated stuff, despite being more of a graphical interface person, it just seems like such a basic (and common) thing a user might want, it seems like it should be as simple as sudo apt install <package name>. As long as I’m using apt and not snap, I expect it to install the .deb package. It feels user hostile :/

Christ. That response from Linus felt pretty fair, Kent seems kinda impossible to work with to be honest :/

Though I did appreciate someone else in this thread pointing out that he may not have the resources for testing. He still seems impossible to work with, but it’s at least good to have context 😅

God damn, that’s a long ass list of steps…

Kinda crazy that’s all necessary, I already didn’t really wanna use Ubuntu since the switch to snap, but damn 😅

For me it definitely looks different, are you sure you have the new version…? They’ve updated a lot of the UI elements to material design 3, but kept all the same layout and whatnot

I really like it so far! Feels like a really welcome refresh

https://github.com/thunderbird/thunderbird-android/releases/tag/THUNDERBIRD_8_0b1

Here’s the release page if you wanna grab it from github :)

Edit: Didn’t intend that to be a winky face, not trying to be smug 😅

That looks cool as hell!

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