Kindly show me where the fuck I mentioned the holocaust? Also don’t appreciate you straw maning me for not simping over china.

You made your point dating to the shang, and I dont disagree. Even more, you’re right, feudal empires falling isn’t a gotcha.

So what about a modern state being violently overthrown? Or is this different because one violent, illegiment warlord championed “the people”, and proceeded to starve 200* million of them after taking power?

Which one of these two states still maintains democratic or republican ideals for the people, a reminder that real Legitimacy lay with the people.

Sorry. Just a measley 50 million people mb. Still the worst famine in history. And 100% preventable.

Ahhh, Chinese history. Breaking every 400-500 years into total chaos, and someone new fixes it so the cycle repeated.

Well, not quite. It’s more akin to if the union was pushed back and was limited to new-england.

The PRC is the confederate equivalent, as they weren’t the original legal government unlike Taiwan, which legally is the heir of the ROC.

Also one of these states is an authoritarian piece of shit, and it’s definitely not Taiwan.