I derailed any possible discussion about “Plants feel pain” before it ever came up

it seems you strongly prefer to attack things I haven’t said than to deal with what I do say

I can’t eat corncobs or stalks. feeding it to cattle so I can eat cheese and beef is a conservation of resources

none of what you said addresses the facts that I raised. you are attacking things I didn’t say and positions I don’t hold.

Here have a look at some frail vegans, while the world burns, mate:

your dunk-brained links to Reddit are not getting clicked

the same crops that feed animals feed people. they eat fodder and industrial waste from the same fields that produce food that people eat. it’s a conservation of resources.

how do you measure crops if not by crop calories?

what I’m reading is that I’m right, and you would like to shift the discussion to land use

I just want people in c/science to stick to scientifically provable claims

this is a science community. it’s reasonable to expect people to provide good science.

you can’t prove that plants don’t have feelings.

this is just more poore-nemecek, a paper debunked by its own citations

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/8/3/034015/pdf

it’s stated explicitly in the papers cited by poore-nemecek. all you need to do is read

if the source material can’t convince you, then live in ignorance

you can read the sources that poore-nemecek cite. they are explicit that their research cannot be combined with other LCAs

whose land is it, and what is their prediliction for money?

your case study is over a decade old. do you have any supporting data?

eating meat has no effect on the planet.

The entire point of veganism is that it is an entire order of magnitude more efficient than eating meat.

the definition provided by the vegan society makes no mention of efficiency.

That’s study doesn’t cover people who have some or all of their food subsidized or provided for free, people who hunt fish or trap for their food, nor those who raise their own. it covers nobody who is working poor, only people who pay full retail price for all their food.