i use Photon, its not an app … its a front end

Yes, you can do that when you have to vote for the lesser evil… and compromise!.. how about NO

what about your principles ? what about setting an example for the future generations ? what are they going to think of their ancestors who lived under and had to work with evil systems because "that’s what they had to work with"

I’m not saying it’s going to be easy, but we need to recognize these systems of control, and boycott them and I’m very glad to see more and more people waking up to the surveillance agenda and leaving Big tech… the government is also a control system, people hate to admit that because it makes them think they’re weak, but that’s not true…

Especially in the nordic Europe

we look up to those nations and we say it worked for them, so it’ll work for us, but there are many factors to consider that won’t play the same for you

and i would argue that even when it works, it’s still susceptible to failure, change of rulers, bad policies accumulate quietly, being told to do something unethical for the greater good ( e.g. taxes )

what about other places where it didn’t work? even after years and years of trying ( voting ), what do you call doing the same thing and expecting different results ? … when you try to remove a dictator peacefully and you end up getting bombed, remember that the Syrian protests started with red roses and ended with blood… anyways I feel I’m going way off topic here… but the point is give a central authority too much power and they’ll abuse it, if not now it’ll be later… so just don’t …it’s time to move on, we can organize ourselves without selling our liberties like our right to privacy.

btw, I thought about this, a looong time ago, when I was thinking is this system rigged? young me felt there’s a conspiracy, but now I realize it’s just how it works, it demands control

And went downhill afterwards

It’s funny you you say that, because we humans as a species are so fascinating, we harnessed many forces of natue, and we came up with mindblowing ideas, yet when it comes to the concept of a government, we think that’s the only system that can work, and the only way that we can live, it’s sad honestly, governments abuse their power, you can’t get them to stop it… unless you want a bullet…so so much for being civil

if you want to address the root cause of surveillance you should be demanding the government to change it’s ways ? Is that what you’re saying ?

I don’t think it’s the lack of transparency or corruption by the government, I think that the very existence of a government ( a centralized authority ) leads to this sort of behavior, you can’t outsource your power to choose, some of your absolute liberty to a ruler and expect they won’t abuse it, you can’t have your cake and eat it with this system, a system where democracies act as Dictatorships, and sometimes they do it openly and all you can do is watch

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Yep, they’ll ask you to step inside a booth, face a tablet and that thing will take a snapshot of your face, what a dystopia ??!!

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I go even further and state that monitoring all financial transactions is good for a democracy

How so ?

almost all transactions are monitored anyway

I beg to differ… how do you think cartels get their funds ?

It’s difficult to parse when your brain defaults to “one of these parties are unfairly maligned” - when the truth is they’re both shitty.

Oh, glad someone said it… this is a common theme on the Internet 😭… It’s okey

It’s a shame. Some years ago I got a lot of value from both websites, but haven’t really followed digital privacy trends lately.

when you’re a beginner you tend to accept advice from anyone in the field, this makes sense because you don’t know which advice to trust, but once you understand the principle, you look back and just know instantly who gave you bad advice vs good advice…

If someone tells me to use a degoogled phone and later I see they’re using an IPhone, it’s not great look… ( for them )… It’s disappointing ( just an example )

It’s such a time sink to gauge the value of everything by yourself.

Whatelse you can do ? Not much… accept keep on learning, I enjoy these kind of stuff, and the more I learn the more I realize the tools we use aren’t perfect and they have many flaws… in technology I learned to be careful before adopting new technologies and not just jump on the hottest thing, I have to resist the Tech enthusiast within me if I wanna satisfy the privacy advocate ( the opposition within me )

I think I got confused by this Lemmy post claiming it was taken over, not “attempted”. If it was taken over, then why would they shoot themselves in the foot?

They stole their funds, git repos, subreddit… they might as well declare it’s the end of the website even though they still hold ownership to some extent … That’s my understanding of it at least

Privacytools seems shadier though, even if they’re claiming to be victims

I agree

This is all really insane. But there are people here saying that privacyguides are reputable

It is indeed insane, at least PrivacyGuides doesn’t push for shitty products and insult his followers for not supporting him, however toxicity towards other projects ( especially GrapheneOS ) is completely allowed on their channels…

I’m not saying we should cancel them and never speak about them again, but if you’re a fan of PG you should hold them accountable, because they can do better

As for Techlore, 😮‍💨…I don’t think there’s hope for Henry… he went too far, he earned the title of a “privacy scammer” for me… and the sad part is that he knows it, he knows he’s in it for a quick buck not to spread the message

I’m not sure, maybe they thought it’ll be more visible for the website followers…

People who like dark colors have the brightest minds, cheers 🍻

Defending ? so showing that Techlore is doing the same thing ( actually way more worse ) means I’m defending PT ?

I’m not going into who’s more corrupt than the other, but I can provide a different source, if you think this one is problematic

But yanno why I’m not focusing on Privacy Tools that much…A - because this post is about Techlore. B - Because the project is dead, so what’s the point?

his shit website

Using this language means nothing to me, and doesn’t effect me in anyway shape or form… I have no gain in the matter… they can both be down tomorrow, and I wouldn’t care

Instead of searching for a “trustworthy” source… whatever that means… Learn about which criteria you should look for when choosing a VPN… learn who are the creators of such service and their experiences…

And then you won’t need to trust, you’ll be able to evaluate

There’s no pretending… if you actually click the link the first video is about the practices or Techlore, so I’ll make it easy for you :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cEfJ1UTNvw

The rest of the article, talks ( with proof ) about the betrayal of Jonah Argon, changing the website license for example…

got butthurt when people created better alternatives that actually gave genuine advice instead of ads.

Really ? Sounds like a very childish thing to be mad about… Especially when you realize there are many websites and blogs that are written by experts

I’m not trying to be funny, I’m saying what happened, and simply don’t trust Techlore because or the lack of ethics…and going after the cash grab… What kind of Privacy minded individual drives a Tesla? Uses Apple hardware? Promotes proprietary solutions?

genuine advice instead of ads

Techlore literally said buy my course so you’ll have an ad free experience… And PrivacyGuides covers surface level stuff…

Since you noticed the bias, let me give you the real dark history of both Techlore and PrivacyGuides ( Jonah Argon ) and how they took over Privacy Tools.io and closed their subreddit.

https://www.privacytools.io/guides/jonah-aragon-privacyguides-failed-attempt-to-takeover

Don’t trust Privacy YouTubers, trust experts who know what they’re talking about

If lunduke reports on it, yanno there’s an agenda… A browser for humanity he said !! 😑 we haven’t even started yet…lol

And now you’re here, arguing with kids, because you’re also a kid… Nice try.