[Architecture] Hub-Spoke model for federation? · Issue #3245 · LemmyNet/lemmy
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Question One of the biggest issues I am currently seeing with Lemmy, is federation. Either... Federation between instances having issues. Federation is backed up. Federation / Syncing is not scalin...

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3245

I posted far more details on the issue then I am putting here-

But, just to bring some math in- with the current full-mesh federation model, assuming 10,000 instances-

That will require nearly 50 million connections.

Each comment. Each vote. Each post, will have to be sent 50 million seperate times.

In the purposed hub-spoke model, We can reduce that by over 99%, so that each post/vote/comment/etc, only has to be sent 10,000 times (plus n*(n-1)/2 times, where n = number of hub servers).

The current full mesh architecture will not scale. I predict, exponential growth will continue to occur.

Let’s work on a solution to this problem together.

  • useful_idiot@lemmy.eatsleepcode.caEnglish
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    1 year ago

    What if each instance had a message broker distribute updates in a pub/sub topics oriented fashion? Does the activitypub spec specify that instance X must http post updates to instance Y or is there room for implementations to get creative?

    • HTTP_404_NotFound@lemmyonline.comOPEnglish
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      1 year ago

      Does the activitypub spec specify that instance X must http post updates to instance Y or is there room for implementations to get creative?

      For my initial idea, my proposal is to allow servers to have the option to choose to go through a hub, or to function as-is.

      What if each instance had a message broker distribute updates in a pub/sub topics oriented fashion?

      That would help the current implementation pretty drastically- although, I am not 100% sure how it is done currently.