I guess they want them to start spelling people’s names correctly.

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    Is this a 3rd party site? Every barista job on Starbucks’ actual site says no experience or education required, so I’m pretty sure what’s more infuriating is how god awful pretty much every job site has become.

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        Indeed has been trash for years, so that tracks. That’s why I’ve only ever used it to figure out who (maybe) has jobs open and then apply directly - they have so much bad information.

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          What app is better? I’ve had bad luck with LinkedIn, Glassdoor and Ziprecruiter?

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            None like they said you apply directly on their site. It sucks it seems they all use Work Day as a platform but you can’t share logins and data you entered between different applications.

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              Most of the indeed postings link to the employers site or workday anyway.

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            That’s the best part - they’re all bad! I’m lucky I usually stick to government and most use governmentjobs.com, which isn’t perfect but it’s miles better. But when I’ve been looking for a second job or trying to see what’s available in the private sector, I have yet to find a site that isn’t trash.

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            I think it depends where you live. In my city, it’s Indeed. LinkedIn only gives me scammy results. But I know ziprecruiter is better in the west coast so I’m sure LinkedIn works for some people too.

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      Yeah Starbucks literally partnered with the Orion homeless youth shelter in Seattle to train teens to be baristas.

      Due to instability during their upbringing, for some of these kids just being able to show up at a certain location at a certain time is a job skill they’re lacking. Yet there’s a little half-Starbucks on site where they can learn that and more.

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    It’s not the degree itself, it’s the debt you incurred to get it, and your consequent lack of negotiating power.

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      I mean migration is a real thing, if your country is so broken and backwards that education is privately paid, might as well migrate to a better and more civilized country?

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        Migration to Europe or Canada is essentially impossible unless you have skills that are in high demand.

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            Many of which won’t be recognised, at least not without further qualification. And no you can’t become an English teacher with a US degree in literature: You need to study second language acquisition pedagogics, ideally for that specific language pair. Nobody cares about your interpretation of To kill a Mockingbird.

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    Curious to know what their rationale is. You shouldn’t even need a high school diploma to serve overpriced coffee.

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      It’s not, this isn’t from Starbucks. It’s just some shitty-arse app that adds this to ~all the listings on it, probably assuming it to be the default.

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      A degree signals you have a history of satisfactory performance of arbitrary tasks over a prolonged period. It can be a way to get less bad employees, though not necessarily better ones.

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      From knowing a little about recruiting, if you have a bachelor’s degree and apply, they’re willing to drop one of their employees who barely finished high school.

      It’s not worth it to replace an underperformer with someone else who’ll likely underperform. But if you can start with someone you deem “better” because they have a slightly more expensive piece of paper, it’s more worth the risk.

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        I thought conventional wisdom was always that service industry jobs don’t really want people with degrees because they’re more likely to find something better and jump ship quickly. “Overqualified.”

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    Doesn’t Starbucks advertise a tuition benefit? Then if you already have a degree, they don’t have to worry about that.

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    This is next level irony. A coffee shop requiring a gender studies degree.

    The CHUDs would have a field day.

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    Lol, back when I worked at Starbucks, I joked that one day this exact thing would happen. That the education industrial complex would require a bachelor’s degree for all jobs, as it would ensure debt and desperation in the vast majority of people who solely wish to survive.

    I also claimed back then that we would all live to see the disastrous effects of climate change. No joke, people back then shook their heads and thought me nuts.

    My next prediction: the majority of people who are parents today will wish they never made the decision to have kids in the next 20 years. Good luck everybody.

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      That’s not much of a prediction. I ask every woman I get to know if they regret having kids. If they could just go back, and not do it.

      Some feel bad about saying yes. Some feel like they’re bad moms. Or bad people for wishing they never had kids.

      Some happily say “fuck these kids! Ruined my life!”

      Some think about it, and eventually say yes.

      But so far, no one has said no.

      And this is going back to the 90s.

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      No if I qualified it would say “bachelor’s degree” in green. I only have associates so when they want it, it is green and says matching qualifications. If I click on the orange button, it says you may not have all the qualifications.

      On the indeed app you can filter by qualifications, so this doesn’t come up.

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        Pretty sure this is a situation where you can just lie with impunity. Is sbucks gonna call up a college and demand records of your fake degree in egyptology?

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          Background checks include education verification. The service they use would do this. Most employers do this.

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          Pretty sure they automate it. I know Spotify uses an API to verify your enrollment in college. I’d bet they could do the same for degree verification.

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              Ha! Sorry, I should’ve expanded on that… they have a student tier that’s discounted, and they use an automated service to verify you’re a legit student.

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      No that’s not how LinkedIn works. If a job lists specific qualification tags like that, it marks those tags with symbols and colors them red or green to indicate if your LinkedIn profile has those qualifications listed. Those can be education requirements, certifications, skills, etc. That tag shows that their profile doesn’t have a bachelor’s degree listed.

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    This can’t possibly be true, otherwise the college grads that work there do not understand basic English… I order a grande nitro cold brew, add a dash of sweet cream. What do they try to give me? A milk white beverage that is at least half sweet cream. WTF? I want coffee with a splash of cream, not cream with a splash of coffee… Doesn’t anyone like coffee flavored coffee anymore or is it all candy and sugar now? If they really are college grads then thank god they aren’t engineers or doctors.

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        But… if OP’s assertion is true, how could they possibly obtain a degree in ANYTHING without paying attention? I mean, Mc Donalds drive through minimum wage non educated employees get my order right and these Starbucks “college grads” can’t figure it out? Well, I guess that’s why they work for Starbucks rather than their degree field?

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          Lol, I posted that comment on the description of my post as a joke because people always say their name is either misspelled or purposely misspelled to make you remember your experience. There are senior year students working at college Starbucks and they are terrible at remembering their customers’ orders while my wife with no GED, and almost a decade of food/barista service experience can remember all the college board members’ usual orders including repeat student customers.

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          paying attention to what you order.

          Does not mean they don’t pay attention to anything. Much like you paying attention to baristas mistakes but only half reading the comment you’re replying to.

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            I’m sorry, what? I am actually asking you a sincere question. If I order a grande nitro cold brew, add a splash of sweet cream, what would you think I was ordering? No, really, I am truly asking you what beverage you would then hand me after I pay you. It has been my experience that I will get a cup of cream with a splash of coffee. Is that what you think I should receive from my order? Are my standards too high that I think a trained basista can provide me with my actual order? Should I just take what they give me, regardless of what I wanted, and just pay them because they “tried”?

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          You can’t be serious. There are plenty of college grads who are stupid as fuck. Source: have worked with many.

          Also, if they’re fucking up your order that badly it’s probably just because they hate their job and don’t really give a fuck.

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            Well ya, I agree with you… but my reply was to OP that said Starbucks required college degrees for baristas and I was amazed that was the case. I mean, when I order a coffee with a “splash” of something else - anything else - added to the coffee, then I would imagine that any rational person, degree or not, would think that I wanted less of the additive than the base. BUT that is not my WEEKLY experience at Starbucks. This is from 3 different locations - not one store. Without fail I will have them redo my nitro cold brew so it actually tastes like coffee not cream. WITHOUT FAIL… I understand that you may have a different experience than I have but I can’t speak for you. I am recording my experience and questioning why a degree is needed as as the supposition by OP.

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              I’m just objecting to the fact that you’re just acting like people with college degrees are somehow more equipped to not fuck up your coffee. That has nothing to do with it. If they truly keep fucking up your coffee it’s because they just don’t care enough and are phoning it in. People with degrees are equally capable of making you a bad cup of coffee lol.

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                YES- you just nailed it. That was my entire point… their degree is worthless at Starbucks. OP was upset that Starbucks wanted a degree to work there but, as you said, it doesn’t matter. They (Starbucks) have an arbitrary barrier to entry with a piece of paper (degree) saying you are somebody now… only they can’t get the little things right. You know, the little things such as getting my order right… fat lot of good the degree did them if they can’t even serve me the coffee I asked for… you know, their job.

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      “… coffee flavoured coffee…” is a phrase I utter quite often - nice to see someone else uses it to.