• 3dmvr@lemm.ee
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      6 days ago

      A lot of these actually are criminals why should we have to keep them?

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        It’s really simple if you have a basic, or very tiny, ability to think about it for two seconds. Let’s see if I can help. Criminals being deported are a huge problem for any receiving county, you see, they often don’t have any legal pretext to imprison or arrest them, if they committed crimes in anther nation, it’s unlikely the can collect evidence, or call witnesses to a legal process, also, it’s quite rare to have laws that apply to actions that occurred outside all legaly boundaries. It’s it illegal if an American goes to a county they don’t have documentation to be in, then commit crimes outside the US against other people without any way for the US to detect or prove these actions? So if Colombia has an American who kills dozens of people in their country, and is charged and sentanced to life without parole, and then the decide YEARS after the fact to put them on a plane to LAX and throw them off the plane with no other effort, do you want to let that plane land? That’s fucking insane. The solution to this problem already exists. Instead of being a fascist stupid fuck, you can create an extradition process where we can accept the Colombian legal process and transfer them ourselves to a US prison without dumping serial killers at an airport on their own.

        Being a threatening authoritarian isn’t solving this problem, and thinking every country in the world will simply accept people who have been convicted an sentanced in another nation is fucking stupid. And thinking they can’t manage to exist outside US economic good will it’s also stupid. If he think burning every ally in Latin America is going to hurt them more than us, he’s as dumb as everyone already knows.

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        We don’t actually know what is going on. We had a system that favored protections for people presumed innocent until proven guilty.

        Now Trump is moving so fast with a process that is not transparent and a rhetoric that is hostile and unsympathetic towards all immigrants. People are understandably suspicious that the immigrants were given a fair chance to defend their legal presence in the USA.

        Shit, I won’t be surprised when legal us born citizens get deported in a mix up.

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          Shit, I won’t be surprised when legal us born citizens get deported in a mix up.

          They’re already rounding up native Americans in these groups. It’s only a matter of time until they start deporting randomly to other countries because ICE was already an incompetent organization and has done that previously numerous times, speeding things up just means more fuckups. Which is of course, the plan. Because it’s not about illegals, or immigrants, it’s about non-whites.

      • EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Yeah, why shouldn’t we send all Republicans to another country? Or how about those criminals guilty of being Jewish, or black, or gay? Or how about the crime of “looking too Mexican,” like the US did to US citizens during Operations Wetback 1 & 2.

        Also, love how you even say “some of them are criminals,” not all of them. Meaning that you’re okay with gathering up some amount of innocent people and sending them to a different country with nothing more than the clothes on their backs.

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          And let’s get this clear, sending someone back to their “home” country without a plan or an actual home to go to should be a criminal act. These people are often productive members of US society who pay more taxes than Aotus. They already have homes and family in the US.

          This is beyond despicable and crosses into the the realm of pure evil.

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        5 days ago

        actually are criminals

        Where was this disdain for criminals at voting time?

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        Because we’re not entitled to force some other country to take them!

        WTF did you think the answer was‽

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        Ah yes, because criminals are subhumans who should be exterminated like the cockroaches they are. And if we can’t take the trash out back like we should we can at least make it not our problem and make sure the cockroaches aren’t in our backyard. That’s what you’re saying right?