I find it curious that this have seemingly been worked on for decades and that the book was published years before the recent hearings that brought up the incident again. It could either support the claim as an independent third party, but could as easily be the source of the claims as well.
Have you heard about Invidious, a front-end for YouTube? It’s basically a middle-man between you and YouTube, which allows you to watch YouTube videos in a more privacy-friendly way. It’s open source and people run their own instances much like Lemmy.
You can watch OP’s video through one of the instances here: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Nbtjxj-OL-s
I’m no physicist so your guess is as good as mine.
Considering the theory is based on emerging physical sciences and even you refer to papers detailing the concept, would it be fair to say it’s more than a guess while not proven science?
I understand what you mean, I thing the Kardashev scale is useful to put it in a perspective beyond dollars or even workhours.
extaordinary evidence and we have none.
None that we, the public, are aware of. Whether or not one consider a cover-up plausible is a bigger discussion. According to the latest whispers shouts in Washington, there’s quite a lot more. What’s your impression of Grusch, the UFO whistleblower?
aliens still have to obey the known laws of physics.
I absolutely agree. But maybe we have a differing point of view on our knowledge… Would you say that we understand the universe to the point where we can exclude any significant further discoveries that would transform our understanding of physics?
I think gravity based propulsion could be a part of it. Is the speed of light constant if someone can mess with the M in E=MC²? Would a piloted craft be unbound by inertia and make impossible maneuvers, accelerate from 0-1000 mph. with no problems if it had no mass?
Gravity based propulsion would explain a few of the unexplainable things. And recent scientific discoveries surrounding gravity does more to support the possibility than disprove it.
Energy are rumored to come from zero-point energy, tech close indistinguishable it or stabilized Moscovium. Whatever it is, based on what we publicly know it’s not using any propulsion system we’re familiar with - So that rules out chemical rocketry from the start.
I have the impression there was great interest in UFO’s in the years after Roswell - It’s even called “The 50’s Ufomania” - But then it kind of died off from the mainstream conversation. UFO’s, alien visitors and such didn’t really “come back” until the very late 70’s/Early 80’s. Then it seemed to go quieter again around the 2000’s.
Any thoughts on the seemingly varied pop-cultural interest in the phenomena? Is it just cultural? Perhaps a lid was lifted? Maybe someone even encouraged the pop-culture industry to make movies like Close Encounters and E.T.? Is my impression off?
I’ve chosen to be skeptical of Garry Nolan due to his history both working together with CIA and his work in the UFO field. I didn’t know about the Defence and Space company Copernicus Space Corporation, but seeing it’s ran by ex-military and establishment profiles… I guess I have to distance myself from these elements of the UFO/UAP discussion.
“Someone” puts Coulthart in contact with the organization that feels ignored? Magically manifested contact details that isn’t available anywhere? Kirkpatrick would love to talk, be transparent and really hammer in they’ve found nothing?
It’s almost like it’s a move from the secret keepers to make their cover-up relevant again since the public simply skipped the entire “AARO found nothing”-part. It’s almost like Kirkpatrick even threw in an easily decoded red herring with the Latin - Because now we (the self-proclaimed people who sees through the veil) can feel like we are on the inside too! It’s conspiracy theorist bait.
I interpret this as one of the more desperate means to regain narrative control I’ve ever seen. When the presence and authority of AARO was painfully lacking in the recent hearing and begging for relevance on Linkedin didn’t work out as intended, they’ve started working with exclusive access for high profiles in the field. I expect the next step would be a limited hangout, where Coulthart will get exclusive information through this new-found connection and he won’t hesitate to share it with the UFO community.
Besides some of the steps being jumbled, this is pretty much exactly what I’d expect the secret keepers to do to maintain the secret.
This made me cautious about Coulthart and I think I’ll have to find out more about him since he has a seemingly prominent role in the UFO community.
Yes. That’s how it works.
I don’t agree.
Concluding that the absence of evidence constitutes evidence of absence sounds like the logical fallacy of argument out of ignorance to me. It’s not an accusation of someone being ignorant, but a term used in the field of logic.
The lack of (what would generally be accepted as) evidence doesn’t prove anything beyond that we’ve found no evidence. But that absolutely impacts what assumptions we should make about a question that so far have no evidence either for or against.
Claim a thing, prove a thing- or be dismissed.
Everybody’s free to chose who they dismiss and not and what parts of testimonies. We seemingly subscribe to two different methods of looking at the topic, I’m happy using mine until something better comes along.
Is it that anyone can say something and it’s true for you regardless of evidence?
You’re always free to try to claim something and see how I react. From our interactions so far I’d say I rather try to analyze claims through the intellectual tools humanity have refined over hundreds of years to the best of my ability, and more often than not I find claims insufficiently substantiated. Like your claim of lack of proof being proof that nothing happened.
I hope I’ve shown you a different way of analyzing unknowns, and if not - We’ll know for sure either when we meet little green men for the first time or humanity have searched every nook and cranny of the universe and found nothing.
IIRC one of the reasons why the US extradition was denied was because McKinnon has Aspergers Syndrome. He’s a self-professed UFO “nut” so I’m not surprised he’s posting about the subject, but if it shifts into money grifting I’d suspect someone is pushing the idea onto him. Only assumptions though.
Supposedly suppressed online. I’m still cautious about the whole thing, but when I started looking there are a lot of compilation videos etc.
other cars passing by didn’t cause a similar glare.
Car headlights are quite individual from model to model, from coverage profiles to differences like if they’re using reflector or projector tech. I agree with the principle of your argument, but I think it would only work if the cars before and after were of the exact make, model and year.
I agree. I did a quick speed comparison, seems to be a reasonable conclusion. https://imgur.com/ysvhGqp
My quick and dirty speed/trajectory analysis leads me to believe it could be an reflection from the car headlight, the movement is within what I’d expect from such a situation - But with high speed and “low” recording framerates it’s difficult to say for sure.
Wouldn’t you want other countries to know what you have?
The arms race always want’s the other person to want the same guns as you. USA shows the world they have nukes? KGB have a target for infiltration. CIA stares at goats? Soviet creates their own supernatural weapons program.
The US has flying disks and never tells? Soviet/Russia never focuses on the field and make their own. Russia attacks the US with planes, trains and automobiles. Get shot down by flying disks, Russia have nothing comparable.
I don’t believe that’s what’s going on but consider it a military-strategical sound doctrine. Assured destruction of the enemy sounds better than mutually assured destruction no?
But why display it when testing? Truly a strange case.
Maybe they were testing how people would react to it?
From witness interviews I seem to recall they observed a solid, V-shaped structure as it moved about (many other observations than the classic video of lights over Phoenix at nighttime, which is too dark to distinguish possible structures).
If you have access to other videos beyond the classic clip, I’l love to give it a second look.
This seems ripe for digging, one statement I saw from someone skimming through was “Apparently we’ve been shooting down UFO’s since the 50’s.”
NZ Government library source.
I was recently made aware of the Magé event in 2020, Brazil seems to be uniquely active the last few years. One rumor from the Magé incident was that military leaks said the activity in the area was on the rise.
I did some quick digging and found an article I shared with the community (UFO Contacts in Italy Volume Two).
It talks about “Velivoli Non Convenzionali” or VNC as an acronym for “Unconventional Flying Vehicles” and a VNC sighting in Venice, 1931. That could be it.